A typical family earning $100,000 with two children

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Gerald Weinand
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A typical family earning $100,000 with two children

Raise your hand if you are a "typical family earning $100,000 with two children." Cuz that is what the Trump White House thinks the average American family is.

https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-tries-to-defend-trumps-claim-that-...

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“If we allow a family to keep

If we allow a family to keep another $1,000 of their income, what does that mean?” Cohn said. “They can renovate their kitchen, they can buy a new car, they can take a family vacation, they can increase their lifestyle. That’s what our tax plan is to do — our tax plan is aimed to return more income back to hard-working Americans.”

All for a $1,000 , you’re kidding?

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I have no question as the

I have no question as to why "Fair Share" asked the question. He, like every Liberal, decries the tax plan as they have every other tax plan promulgated or proposed by Conservatives. No such Republican plan will ever be good as long as it is not 100% Socialist-Big Government Totalitarian controlled society program. These same inane invective laced and garment rending wails of indignant sorrow have been copied from every previous proposals made by Kennedy, Reagan, and every other Republican. We are well advised to ignore such oral flatulence from the left. Better we examine the Liberal/Swine Left's proposals to correct a morbidly dysfunctional tax system. Oh, wait....cannot find one. All this pin-head group can do is tear down, they cannot build are improve anything and that is why they are LOSERS!

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Hey, Fair Share. Good to

Hey, Fair Share. Good to hear from you again. If you haven't already done so, don't forget to reapply for your property tax circuit breaker benefit; you have to do it every year. Nobody in your circumstances should have to pay their full property tax levy, right?

So....lots of molehills in your little patch of paradise, huh?

Here's the statement in your link: "Earlier during the briefing, Cohn said that the $1,000 cut he was referring to would apply to “a typical family earning $100,000 with two children.” "

You suggest that it means the administration believes THE "typical family" earns $100,000 and has two children.

That's not what it says, unless you're looking for facts not in evidence, which is probably a congenital habit of yours indicative of your Dirigo Blue days.

It says that FOR a family earning $100,000 with two kids and a "typical" tax situation, they would save $1,000. The word typical is virtually unnecessary.

If you can't discern the nuances of the words, maybe you should seek help in rhetorical methods.

Right after you see to getting your tax break.

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That's the same family that

That's the same family that can buy a new car, get a kitchen renovated or take a vacation for $1,000?

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Gosh, I think some folks here

Gosh, I think some folks here need remedial reading and comprehension classes. I guess this sentence was ignored because it did not fit the slam those nimrods want to profess..

"He went on to talk about the things an American family could purportedly do if they saved $1,000 on their tax bill — things that cost much more than $1,000, like renovating homes and buying new cars."

Oh, I can take a great vacation for $1,000. Hop in the old jalopy and drive 7 hours to Quebec City and spend a couple of days eating fine French cuisine while enjoying a truly beautiful city.

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I've read that the average

I've read that the average year round wage for 51 % the americans that have a full time job is 31,000 dollars or less. 94 % of all those jobs that Obama created and crowed about and now The Donald is crowing about are part time jobs.

Slavelandia is what America has become, working from paycheck to paycheck to those that do work and government check to government check to those that don't.

The whole idea that those that work are paying those that don't work is up to debate, as far as I can see the government just prints the money to run damn near everything. At some point that will end and that is when the shtf.

The Donald has become a HUGE disappointment, what a surprise, only the alternative got him elected, or was it the Russians. Yes our new boogieman, why not, it worked before.

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Mike G must have read "THE

Mike G must have read "THE book."

JackStrawFromWichita
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I believe that the average

I believe that the average income for a family of 4 nationwide is around $75K. Of course, that number is skewed high because of some families of 4 earning so much more. The median (half above and half below) is around $55K.

In Cumberland County a family of 4 with both spouses working full time jobs is probably around $100K but the $1,000 tax saving Cohn expects isn’t going to get them a new car, a new kitchen or a week in Disney World during winter vacation.

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One of the questions that has

One of the questions that has been thrown out is "how do they pay for the cuts?" Standard answer the increase in economic activity will do that...... or not.There is obviously no mention of reducing spending so that's off the table.
Just a question ,would a national sales tax be any kind of a reasonable offset...... think about all of the underground income that goes on untaxed , those people do buy things.......The rich buy expensive things .......

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A national sales tax has no

A national sales tax has no chance of passing. It would be opposed by both the idle rich and the idle poor.

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Maine lion....I agree , think

Maine lion....I agree , think of the foreign nationals that live here in the US tax free......a little more revenue

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Merlin

Merlin

You don't have to be a liberal or a conservative to know that this country's power elite are screwing the middle class. It's a neofeudal society, the rich get richer, commit crimes but don't go to jail, in fact most are rewarded with severance pay.

The politicians are bought and paid for by the corporations whether they be jackasses or heffalumps.

The FED buys the government debt with money made from nothing, they buy up worthless mortgages so their buddies don't have to take a loss, they buy corporate bonds as well as government bonds to keep the Ponzi system going.

You probably know all this but you figure what the hell I'll be dead before that shit storm hits, and I hope you are right, so don't hurry.

Johnw

There is no reason to worry about decreasing spending, that ship sailed decades ago. 9-11 changed everything. At this point in history it is just about keeping the baby-boomers comfortable until they die, so hope for long life for us boomers and that guy^. Our kids and kids/kids be screwed, that might be why Johnny can't read and Cannabis is the new industry, they know it.

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Not sure who deserves the

Not sure who deserves the cockeyed optimist trophy the most; pmcon, or Mike G?

Mike G
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Laugh my ass off Merlin, just

Laugh my ass off Merlin, just give me 5 more years. ; )

Mike G
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In Cumberland County a family

In Cumberland County a family of 4 with both spouses working full time jobs is probably around $100K but the $1,000 tax saving Cohn expects isn’t going to get them a new car, a new kitchen or a week in Disney World during winter vacation.

NOTICE that no one says to pay off debt. comical

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It's easy for a 2 person

It's easy for a 2 person household to make $100,000 a year in Maine. Move a little south.

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It's worth noting that the

It's worth noting that the current Trump tax proposal pretty much bends over and fucks anyone with a mortgage living in a state that has high state/local taxes.

(It raises the lowest rate, doubles the standard deduction, and eliminates the state and local tax deduction. So if you are a poor renter, you're getting a sizable tax cut. If you own a home in Maine, you're paying more, unless you're a billionaire.)

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I am of two minds on the

I am of two minds on the deduction of State taxes on Federal returns. I think I am coming down on the position that says...everyone who earns the same income and has the same size family should pay the same taxes used to fund government and fund the military to protect our shores. Just because you may want to live in a State which also wants more of your money should not mean that you pay less Federal taxes than I do and to make matters worse, I must help make up the difference for what you are not paying.

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Auburn if my math is correct

Auburnite if my math is correct that's two jobs paying $24.03 per hour 40 hours per week 52 week a year.......Would you list the places where else jobs are?

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I'd say the Donald's tax plan

I'd say the Donald's tax plan benefits the upper crust, it does not simplify our tax code it is just more BS coming from the Beltway by either the jackasses or the heffalumps. It is hard to actually say that our economy is any way a free market economy, saying that is a joke , it is all manipulated by the central banks and their good friends in the corporations and the presstitute propaganda crowd.

The only free market that occurs is between our local businesses and each other, the stock market and the FEDS are a sham.

And Again considering how much this country just borrows Prints money some are all concerned about what they pay in taxes, Christ if Americans actually had to pay their "fair share" of the money that has been printed borrowed in their governments name, we wouldn't have a home to live in

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Hey Mel - still hiding behind

Hey Mel - still hiding behind your coward's shield while calling others names? So very brave you are you little kitty. So very brave.

Gerald Weinand
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Serious question johnw - can

Serious question johnw - can you point to any tax cut that paid for itself? I would really like to see an example of this repeated claim by some politicians. Thanks.

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Gerald ,that wasn't my

Gerald ,that wasn't my question.......where are those jobs.......and no I don't think Trumps plan will cut my taxes......nobody in Washington has any intention of cutting taxes for average earners ,ever.

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Gerald here is a list of the

Gerald here is a list of the hundred highest paying jobs in Maine,I don't see many that the average guy on the street in Maine is qualified for,but of course the list didn't get down to this $50 k per year retail jobs wirth their great benefit packages .....or those high paying creative economy jobs ....again where are these"easy" $100 K. I've got friends who need them ......Simple question......
https://www.zippia.com/advice/highest-paying-jobs-in-maine/

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@Watcher: "I am of two minds

@Watcher: "I am of two minds on the deduction of State taxes on Federal returns. I think I am coming down on the position that says...everyone who earns the same income and has the same size family should pay the same taxes used to fund government and fund the military to protect our shores. Just because you may want to live in a State which also wants more of your money should not mean that you pay less Federal taxes than I do and to make matters worse, I must help make up the difference for what you are not paying."

I see your point, Watcher, but it's worth noting that businesses are still able to deduct taxes paid. For example, if I own a rental property, I only pay taxes on rental income less expenses (mortgage interest, property taxes, insurance, repairs/maintenance, etc.)

So, like the mortgage interest deduction, this puts individuals on the same playing field as businesses in terms of the ability to buy real estate. (Since your ability to buy real estate is not on the total price but what your final monthly total payment would be.) If you take away the ability to deduct this, then it favors businesses buying real estate and renting (picture hedge funds buying up houses in your area and airbnbing them out.)

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BIW

BIW
CMP
Iddex
Unum
WEX
Pratt and Whitney

trades like truck driving, plumbing, electricians, hvac, nursing - are begging for people and pay well.
IT shops always looking for network engineers, database admins, etc.

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I'm in IT and was chatting

I'm in IT and was chatting with a recruiter the other day who said that there are always more positions than candidates in the Maine/NH area.

The unemployment rate in Maine is 3%. Extremely low and below the national average.

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auburnite ,yup those skilled

auburnite ,yup those skilled positions are begging for help..... there just aren't enough qualified candidates........a good percent of the Maine work force is sorely unqualified , uneducated ,and unmotivated to fill those positions......The jobs for those people even with both working rarely add up to that easy $100k......
Drivers is an area I do have experience in and I can tell you first hand that many applicants can't pass a drug screen, a physical or a criminal back ground check...... pick one......The loss of Maine's manufacturing base continues to be a sore blow for people statewide.......

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I have little sympathy for

I have little sympathy for those who can't pass a drug test. What are they thinking?

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I have little sympathy for

I have little sympathy for those who can't pass a drug test. What are they thinking?

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