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@mark: "But if the man did as

@mark: "But if the man did as you suggest, you'd be right there posting accusatory articles describing how he interfered with a serious Justice investigation, and this could be grounds for impeachment if not hanging for treason and all the miserable rest."

No, because if he did that, the justice department would say, "no, there was no wiretap" and the whole circle jerk would be over.

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Not as tiresome as seeing how

Not as tiresome as seeing how Trump operates...

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Gonna be a long eight years.

Gonna be a long eight years for you, Hon.

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NSA Documents Prove

NSA Documents Prove Surveillance of Donald Trump & His Family
Bombshell discovery shows targets of NSA's "Project Dragnet"
Jerome Corsi | Infowars.com - March 19, 2017

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Infowars.com have obtained credible information from law enforcement sources regarding individual records of U.S. citizens under National Security Agency (NSA) electronic surveillance in the years 2004 through 2010 – a database that suggests both Donald J. Trump and Alex Jones were under illegal, unauthorized government monitoring during those years.

Michael Zullo, formerly the commander and chief investigator of the Cold Case Posse (CCP), a special investigative group created in 2006 in the office of Joseph M. Arpaio, formerly the sheriff in Maricopa County, an Arizona State Certified Law Enforcement Agency, headquartered in Phoenix, Arizona, provided sections of the database to Infowars.com.

The electronic surveillance database, provided to Zullo by a whistleblower in 2013, was apparently created by the NSA as part of the NSA’s illegal and unconstitutional Project Dragnet electronic surveillance of U.S. citizens, first revealed by news reports published in 2005, as further documented by the revelations of whistleblower Edward Snowden in 2013.

Sheriff Arpaio and Chief Investigator Zullo have identified dozens of entries at various addresses, including both Trump Tower in New York City and Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, under which Donald Trump was apparently under NSA electronic surveillance from 2004, during President George W. Bush’s term of office, through 2009, the first year of President Obama’s presidency.

Electronic surveillance of Donald Trump was listed in the database for the following companies, locations, and dates:

Trump International
1 Central Park, NYC, NY
2008

Trump World Tower
845 United Nations Plaza, NYC, NY
No Date

Trump Tower SAL
108 Central Park, NYC, NY
2007

Trump Palace Co
200 E. 69th Street A, NYC, NY
2008

Trump Entertainment
725 Fifth Ave. FL, NYC, NY
2007

Trump Organization
725 Fifth Ave. BSM, NYC, NY
2009

Trump Palace
725 Fifth Ave., NYC, NY
2004

Mar-a-Lago Club
1100 S. Ocean BL, Palm Beach, FL
2006

Trump International
401 N. Wabash Ave., Chicago, IL
2008

Douglass Limousine
239 Nassau St., Princeton, NJ
2008

Trump International
3505 Summit BLV, West Palm Beach, FL
2004

Flights INC
P.O. Box 196, Hamilton MA
2004

Trump International
1 Central Park, NYC, NY
2008

Trump Hotels
Huron Ave., Atlantic City, NJ
No Date

Trump National
339 Pine Rd, Briarcliff, NY
No Date

Trump Plaza & C
2500 Pacific Ave, Atlantic City, NJ
2008

Trump Palace Co.
200 E. 69th St., NYC, NY
2008

Seven Springs
66 Oregon Rd, Mount Kisco, NY
2006-2008

While attempts have been made to deny such domestic surveillance, reports from the New York Times in 2014 showed the Central Intelligence Agency had done just that by spying on a senate panel investigating the agency’s use of “enhanced interrogation.”

More.....much more: https://www.infowars.com/nsa-documents-prove-surveillance-on-donald-trum...

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Wow. Do the world a favor and

Wow. Do the world a favor and drink the other koolaid from the other Jones or go out in a lightening storm with your tin-foil hat.

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Doesn't it just suck when

Doesn't it just suck when facts and truth override snowflake emotion and mindless natter.

March 20, 2017
Oops! CNN accidentally confirms story that Brit intell passed along Trump communications to Obama admin
By Thomas Lifson

Lawyers are trained never to ask a question of a witness if they don’t already know the answer. But it is quite different in journalism – at least in principle, if the principle is getting at the truth. But alas, in these days of fake news and fanatical dead-ender opposition to President Trump, those MSM TV networks committed to driving Trump from office might want to consider retraining for their talking heads. Make them more like lawyers and avoid embarrassnents like that suffered by CNN’s Brian Stelter.

Courtesy of Grabien, here is a disastrous interview in which the guest, Larry Johnson, confirmed the story that Judge Andrew Napolitano told on-air about British intelligence passing along surveillance data involving the Trump administration.

Here is the rush transcript:

STELTER: “Let me ask you about this thing.”
JOHNSON: “Sure.”
STELTER: “So my sense is that on Monday, Napolitano says this on TV, he says he has Intel sources who believe this is true. You’re saying you were one of those sources, but you didn’t know Napolitano was going to use you like that?”
JOHNSON: “What happened was I communicated, when Donald Trump tweeted what he did Saturday two weeks ago, the next day I was interviewed on Russia today. I had known about the fact that the British, through ghcq were information back channel, this was not at the behest of Barack Obama, let’s be clear about that. But it was done with the full knowledge of people like John Brennan and Jake clapper. Two people I flow within the intelligence community in January, they were very concerned about this because they saw it as an unfair meddling in the politics, but it was a way to get around the issue of American intelligence agencies not collecting.”
STELTER: “To be clear, you have this secondhand? So you didn’t get this information directly, you’re hearing from others.
JOHNSON: “I’m hearing it from people who are in a position to know, that’s correct.”

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“I’m hearing it from people

“I’m hearing it from people who are in a position to know, that’s correct.” Sounds like Trump talking about Obama's birth certificate. How'd that work out?

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How'd that work out?

How'd that work out?

We don't know yet.

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Yeah, I'm sure Orly Taitz

Yeah, I'm sure Orly Taitz will uncover the truth eventually.

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https://www.washingtonpost

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/03/19/no-new-evide...

Comey declined to say whether any officials had sought approval from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to monitor anyone in the Trump campaign, saying he did not want to discuss the workings of the highly secretive court.

Well, If your ass is in a sling......... decline does not equal deny. Therefore no felony for lying to congress.

I personally hope that the FBI did not cower to the demands of person or persons yet unknown and interfere or surveil unlawfully. but I do have my doubts that it did not happen. Past spying on Trump is documented and it becomes difficult to stop once the genie is out of the lamp. Comey did confirm that they were "investigating". It becomes spying depending upon who received the information or passed it to someone outside the FBI. Not at all unreasonable given Obama's interference in foreign elections.

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Again, if they're

Again, if they're investigating, then they have probable cause for commission of some kind of crime.

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Come yesterday.

Come yesterday.
FBI investigating Russian attempted interference with election.

MSM this am.
Collusion between Trump campaign and Russia .

Two things or one separate thing.

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"MSM this am.

"MSM this am.
Collusion between Trump campaign and Russia .

Two things or one separate thing."

Yeah... Comey did admit that Russia wanted Trump to win & Clinton to lose, and that they did want to interfere. But it's a leap to get to collusion.

.... but it *did* seem like Trump was awfully warm and fuzzy with Putin. More so than any red blooded American should be. I mean, who supports the annexation of Crimea? Assad??

To steal from mainelion, it falls under the category of, "things that make you go hmmm".

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"who supports the annexation

"who supports the annexation of Crimea? Assad"??

Well no one when the support exceeds verbal and materialistic aid etc.. ,but takes on a entire different
level beyond that ( military involvement).

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You can investigate a ham

You can investigate a ham sandwich.
That doesn't mean it's suspected of having been left out of the fridge too long.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/us/politics/obama-caught-on-microphone...

President Obama found his private moment of political candor caught by a live microphone on Monday as he told President Dmitri A. Medvedev of Russia that he would have “more flexibility” to negotiate on the delicate issue of missile defense after the November election, which Mr. Obama apparently feels confident he will win.

“Yeah, I understand,” the departing Russian president said. “I understand your message about space. Space for you ... .”

“I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” Mr. Medvedev said, referring to Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin, who just won an election to succeed Mr. Medvedev.

.... but it *did* seem like (liberal democrat) Obama was awfully warm and fuzzy with Medvedev and Putin. More so than any red blooded American should be.

Gingrich nailed it: ” Newt Gingrich, who is trailing in delegates, also seized on Mr. Obama’s unguarded quote, telling CNN, “I’m curious: how many other countries has the president promised that he’d have a lot more flexibility the morning he doesn’t have to answer to the American people?”

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Looks like TThe Trump team

Looks like The Trump team WAS under surveillance

Members of the Donald Trump transition team, possibly including Trump himself, were under U.S. government surveillance following November’s presidential election, House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) told reporters Wednesday.

Nunes said the surveillance appeared to be legal but that he was concerned because it was not related to the FBI’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the election and was widely disseminated across the intelligence community...

He said the information that he had seen and was disseminated across the intelligence community appeared to him to have "little or no apparent intelligence value."

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http://www.breitbart.com/big

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/22/nunes-unmasking-repor...

House Intel Chair Bombshell: Nunes ‘Unmasking’ Report Vindicates Trump Claims on Surveillance

Much of that had been suspected, on the basis of mainstream media reports, but Rep. Nunes reported something new: that the surveillance did not involve the ongoing Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) inquiry into Russia’s alleged involvement in the 2016 presidential election. Indeed, none of the surveillance had intelligence value, he said.

The new information vindicates earlier reporting by Breitbart News, Mark Levin, and others, and which President Trump may have relied upon in tweeting the wiretapping claim Mar. 4.

Wednesday’s revelations by Rep. Nunes confirm earlier media reports of surveillance of Trump aides and associates, with the added twist that the revelations were unrelated to investigations of Russian ties to the Trump campaign.

The result is a vindication of Trump’s controversial claims. Questions remain about whether President Obama himself knew of the surveillance, which other Obama administration officials were involved, and whether Trump was monitored directly.

Imagine that, TRUMP is proven right by the Chairman of the intelligence committee. The corruption runs deep and the morons wouldn't recognize the truth if it ran over them with a freight train. (make that the Trump Train)

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The fact that Trump and his

The fact that Trump and his team was under surveillance must have slipped Comey's mind when he was testifying. It's just SO hard to keep things straight when you're covering things up.

FBI not cooperating

May be now he WILL be put on double secret probation by those geniuses in congress.

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Aye, Claudius? Need help with a crow recipe?

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Just to clarify, *he* was not

Just to clarify, *he* was not under surveillance, someone else that talked to his people *was*.

Nunes said to a reporter that Trump's tweet was still false. (Don't have a link, I saw it on cable news, but I'm sure it's googleable.)

While it's true that the the names should have been redacted, they did not explicitly surveil his communications directly.

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Yeah, right.

Yeah, right.

Today, March 23rd 2017, WikiLeaks releases Vault 7 “Dark Matter”, which contains documentation for several CIA projects that infect Apple Mac Computer firmware (meaning the infection persists even if the operating system is re-installed) developed by the CIA’s Embedded Development Branch (EDB). These documents explain the techniques used by CIA to gain ‘persistence’ on Apple Mac devices, including Macs and iPhones and demonstrate their use of EFI/UEFI and firmware malware.

Among others, these documents reveal the “Sonic Screwdriver” project which, as explained by the CIA, is a “mechanism for executing code on peripheral devices while a Mac laptop or desktop is booting” allowing an attacker to boot its attack software for example from a USB stick “even when a firmware password is enabled”. The CIA’s “Sonic Screwdriver” infector is stored on the modified firmware of an Apple Thunderbolt-to-Ethernet adapter.

“DarkSeaSkies” is “an implant that persists in the EFI firmware of an Apple MacBook Air computer” and consists of “DarkMatter”, “SeaPea” and “NightSkies”, respectively EFI, kernel-space and user-space implants.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/wikileaks-vault-7-leak-cia-bugs-iphones-fa...

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http://www.foxnews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/potential-smoking-gun-showing...

Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretapped him in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4.

https://subjectpolitics.com/trump-just-won-doj-lawyer-just-leaked-james-...

Former DOJ prosecutor Larry Klayman sent a letter telling Nunes that a CIA whistleblower had contacted him with 47 hard drives and 600 million images that PROVE Obama and Comey spied on Trump and many others!

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@Rebecca: lol how is that

@Rebecca: lol how is that even on topic? We already had the Vault 7 thread.... back when it actually happened

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It would be interesting if

It would be interesting if "Blabbermouth Shultz" was called before Congress and got caught lying about having some of this information. That would put the icing on the cake. We already know that she is very compliant in the sabotaging of election candidates so sabotaging the transition and planning to obstruct and contaminate the smooth transition of executives would be well within her area of operation.

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Just to clarify, *he* was not

Just to clarify, *he* was not under surveillance, someone else that talked to his people *was*.

Unreal perverted logic…The translation is: your team spies on my team but that does not mean you spied on me…?

But then that depends on the definition of “someone else that talked to his people was”….God help us.

Obama's staff knew nothing about the information obtained and did not make any decisions based on that information...is THAT what we are supposed to conclude?

See below…."Most important, Nunes told me these reports were sent to the Obama White House among other executive branch agencies."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1KN2SHNjWw

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-27/devin-nunes-explains-...

So let's look at the bigger picture. Trump has claimed that what Nunes found out vindicates his tweets from more than three weeks ago accusing Barack Obama of illegally tapping his wires at Trump Tower. Nunes has repeatedly said this claim is literally false. Yet Nunes has also said the reports he viewed included information that should not have been widely distributed inside the government. In some cases, he said the names of Trump advisers caught up incidentally in the eavesdropping were not expunged from surveillance reports as those of U.S. persons should have been.

Most important, Nunes told me these reports were sent to the Obama White House among other executive branch agencies. Nunes until now had only said the reports he viewed were widely distributed inside the government. "The reports included details about the Trump transition, meetings of Trump and senior advisers, they were distributed throughout the intelligence community and to the White House," Nunes said. "In some cases, there was additional unmasking of Trump transition team officials."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1KN2SHNjWw

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No way! This stuff does NOT

No way! This stuff does NOT happen….the Obama team never ever even thought about using information about the Trump team from sources that might even have the perception of being…..not quite ethical.

And by the way…if Hillary or Valerie or Lorretta Lynch even THOUGHT that information was being use by subordinates they would have immediately issued directives to … __________ it. You get to fill in the blank.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/Brooklyn-Prosecutor-Indicted-Il...

Brooklyn Prosecutor Charged with Faking Judges' Signatures for Illegal Wiretaps

A supervising prosecutor from the Brooklyn district attorney's office forged judges' signatures in order to obtain illegal wiretaps and then used those wiretaps to illegally monitor cell phone calls and text messages, federal prosecutors alleged in an indictment Monday.

Tara Lenich, 41, who was an assistant district attorney with the Kings County District Attorney's Office, allegedly created those fake judicial orders for more than a year -- from June 2015 to November 2016 -- in order to get the wiretaps.

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Report: Trump Was Spied on

Report: Trump Was Spied on For Up to a Year Before Inauguration, Susan Rice Implicated in Unmasking

SOURCE

. . When Chairman Nunes came out and told you that some very troubling surveillance had been taking place against Trump, which was not related to national security, the DNC controlled media tied themselves into little pretzels of rage because it validated what Trump was saying all along -- that he'd been 'wiretapped.'
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Not long after Trump launched his infamous tweet, Rush was breaking it down for us mere mortals. Trump had to name Obama or no one would pay attention and he chose to use 'wiretapped' because it could be broadly applied to any means of surveillance. He knew exactly what he was tweeting.

Pay attention, Jasper+++. It was Obama's NSA, it was going on for more than a year and it had nothing to do with non-existant, Russian influence. Your President is right, again.

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Now you've done it. We're

Now you've done it. We're going to have to listen to Smegma whine about how he can't pay. Probably will want another govt. program for that as well.

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