Maine SEIU info -- "SEIU Suffers More Setbacks"

7325 posts / 0 new
Last post
Moving Forward
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 3 days ago
Joined: 12/27/2005 - 7:35pm
How will those poor union

How will those poor union supporters survive with these cuts in state government? Oh my god, the sky is falling...
[url=http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/6458543.html]Click Here for today's sob story[/url] by the typical Far Left Kennebec Journal.

In addition, [url=http://blip.tv/file/2225652/]Here's a cute video[/url] of those poor SEIU puppets out protesting against the Governor.

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
Mark, thanks for putting that

Mark, thanks for putting that video up here. I saw Tim "Moe" Belcher walking in the line there looking down at his cell phone obviously distracted by more important matters like (let's hope) looking for another job.

neen
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 5 months ago
Joined: 12/15/2008 - 7:53pm
Al Greenlaw said: I wonder

Al Greenlaw said:
I wonder why SEIU has not commented on the screwing the Indiana public pension fund received from the Obama driven Chrysler bankruptcy? That fund is for teachers, state employees, police, and firefighters. The fund purchased Chrysler corporate bonds that were supposed to be secured in case of bankruptcy. Not only are they being paid after the unsecured loans made by the UAW, but are being reimbursed far less than other creditors. I believe that the total investment was close to $50 million. They will be reimbused at 29 cents to the dollar. Contracts mean nothing to this administration. Who will buy these bonds in the future if there is no guarantee of payment? Since SEIU represents millions of public employees, you would think that might cause them some concern. Guess not.

Can we say ACORN in the same sentence, with SEIU? SEIU members are being very tight-lipped about their origins. They were probably taught that by "the Won."

Moving Forward
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 3 days ago
Joined: 12/27/2005 - 7:35pm
Well, the puppet masters for

Well, the puppet masters for MSEA-SEIU are at it again. In light of today's new "Action Alert!" ([url=http://www.mseaseiu.org/Story%2023.htm]Click Here[/url]), do they think members are really stupid or do they just like telling people what to do?

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
Both! But it is in the nature

Both! But it is in the nature of all labor unions to encourage full-employment because the more the work the more the workers and so the more the dues.

Moving Forward
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 3 days ago
Joined: 12/27/2005 - 7:35pm
Wow, it looks like the MSEA

Wow, it looks like the MSEA union/PAC has suddenly become interested in what the members think...
“MSEA-SEIU Local 1989 Chapter Survey”
[url=http://www.mseaseiu.org/]Now posted here[/url]

They have certainly used some interesting questions and answers in this survey.

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
And like all cons, MSEA

And like all cons, MSEA Management tries to distract the Membership from focusing on the real source of their problems (i.e. MSEA Managment) by surveying them about their local labor union chapters much like Iranian President Ahmadinajad surveying the Iranian people about problems in their towns and villages.

towncrier
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 7 months ago
Joined: 06/14/2005 - 12:01am
Curious Mark that I didn't

Curious Mark that I didn't see the Union put out an Email about this survey, or did they? I did not see it. Hummm Always funny what they do when the membership starts to question them. Got to laugh outloud at this.

Moving Forward
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 3 days ago
Joined: 12/27/2005 - 7:35pm
I'm not sure if an Email has

I'm not sure if an Email has gone out or not, but I would guess they've told all of their kool aid drinking puppets about it. That survey is a joke!

Franco-Republican
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 8 months ago
Joined: 11/17/2002 - 1:01am
I hear they may be feeling

I hear they may be feeling the financial pinch through losing some of their membership trying to recoup longevity by going fair share. Hitting them in their pockets is the only way membership can take back their Union.

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
And typical MSEA

And typical MSEA Mis-Management, in an effort to stem the flow going out, they engage in irrelevant concerns with the promise of cosmetic changes such as this survey of the membership on the all the different chapters which is like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The good news is if MSEA doesn't start engaging in meaningful changes (such as cleaning out all their Moe, Curley & Larry management team) they will keep sinking like the Titanic and their market share will be taken over by other rival labor unions thanks to the beauty of free choice and free markets.

Punk
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 6 months ago
Joined: 03/12/2005 - 1:01am
LOL. SEIU is 'marching' in

LOL.

SEIU is 'marching' in Augusta at the traffic light in front of the State Offices by the Arboretum (Rt. 9).

I yelled "Be lucky ya got a job!".

Yeah, that was me ya bastards!

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
Definition of futility:

Definition of futility: MSEA-SEIU marching in Augusta at the traffic light in front of the State Offices by the Arboretum (Rt. 9).

Moving Forward
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 3 days ago
Joined: 12/27/2005 - 7:35pm
Look, they're planning

Look, they're planning another protest...

“Members of the chapter will contine their picket on Thursday, June 18, at 7:30 AM.”
Per: http://www.mseaseiu.org/ (as of 06/16/09 at 5:25 PM)

NOTE: It’s a shame the union’s webmaster doesn’t know how to spell continue or use Spell Check. LMAO

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
Can you hear Baldacci

Can you hear Baldacci laughing? Much outcry, little outcome, which of course should be the MSEA membership's first clue. Read below from same MSEA website [my comments are in the following brackets]:

Executive Branch Bargaining

While there are many important proposals still on the table, one of the more critical issues that the Executive Branch Union Negotiating Team has proposed is no-layoff language. This proposal aims to put in writing both the Governor’s and the Legislature’s stated intent of preventing layoffs even as they approved a two-year state budget that slashes state workers’ pay and benefits. [Now what good is this really since the Governor already imposed his 10% across the board lay-offs this past February, so isn't this like trying to shut the barn door after the horses ran out?]

Imposed over our union’s strongest objections, the pay and benefit cuts made by the Legislature and signed into law by the Governor were all done outside of the collective bargaining process. [Errr...the union's strongest objections would be to file a prohibitive practice complaint with the NLRB]

Those cuts were still allowable under Maine law because they coincided with the expiration of the current two-year contracts covering nearly 10,000 Executive Branch workers. [Errr...Maine law doesn't supercede Federal law]

The Union Negotiating Team has been negotiating with management since November 2008 on successor contracts. [Plenty of time then to have filed unfair labor practice complaints with the NLRB]

Management so far has been unwilling to help find solutions to many of the problems that the Union Negotiating Team is determined to solve through bargaining proposals developed by MSEA-SEIU members. [Notice the sleight of hand here? If Management has been engaging in bad faith bargaining as alleged here by MSEA then that is grounds for filing a complaint with the NLRB which MSEA is determined not to do]

Both sides have agreed to mediation and a mediator has been brought in. The mediator serves as a liaison between the Union Negotiating Team and management. Mediation began June 3 and continued on June 12, 15 and 16. Additional mediation dates are scheduled for June 18, 22 and 24, and also on July 1. [Notice what MSEA doesn't say here: that a mediator cannot over-turn the State Legislature's Budget law...only the NLRB or Federal Court can].

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
Good news! My MSEA Steward

Good news!

My MSEA Steward called me today telling me that several MSEA Chapters have made formal demands to the MSEA Board of Directors to fire Executive Director Tim Belcher.

Seems more and more people have been reading this website and copping on to what is wrong with MSEA (i.e. it’s been politically co-opted by the Democratic Party of Maine and mismanaged into the ground in the process).

And the proof is in the pudding: just look at the state of affairs MSEA is currently in with their worst ever Executive Branch bargaining thanks to Tim “Moe” Belcher, Roberta “Curley” DeAraujo and Rod “Larry” Hiltz with all their talk of highly evolved and unique relationships between the State and MSEA Management.

17% pay cut over three years, loss of longevity pay, increased furlough days, etc…

Clearly Belcher and company have put their own relationship with Governor Baldacci ahead of the MSEA Membership’s relationship with the State of Maine. That’s why Belcher, DeAraujo & Hiltz aren’t taking the State to the NLRB for unfair labor practices and bad faith bargaining. In fact they’re not even mentioning it BECAUSE they don’t want MSEA Members to even think about beating the Governor and Legislature.

This is the definition of a Management Union which won’t ever even begin to change until MSEA Members go Iranian on their three stooges MSEA management team.

And check this out, my Steward also told me that several MSEA Members have recently requested information from Belcher about their Union such as: have Belcher & DeAraujo, who are labor lawyers themselves, actually hired private labor law firms in Portland and Augusta to defend MSEA (themselves really) for actions they foolishly committed and if so why?

According to my Steward (who is very trustworthy and reliable) Belcher has sent out a standard nasty letter in response to these informational requests refusing to give out any of this information BECAUSE he runs this union and not them.

Stop the presses! Servant out of control!

So let’s all give a big round of applause to those MSEA Chapters that have asked for Belcher’s head on a platter and start converting (for now anyway) to fair share status.

Time to teach these rat bastards how power really works – from the ground up!

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
And how do we know it's time

And how do we know it's time to teach these rat bastards?

Because every MSEA Member needs to ask themselves the following question:

Are you better off now than you were two years ago?

And in case any of you forgot - Belcher, DeAraujo & Hiltz came into power at MSEA two years ago.

BiddefordSteve
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 1 month ago
Joined: 04/03/2008 - 10:51am
Our unions lack of firing

Our unions lack of firing back at Baladacci & Company really says it all doesn't it? Protests at the Statehouse will do nothing, and we all know it. Except maybe MSEA.

Franco-Republican
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 8 months ago
Joined: 11/17/2002 - 1:01am
Very good news Sonny....the

Very good news Sonny....the momentum needs to continue....I tell people every day to go fair-share at least for a while. As with a lot of things it takes hitting someone in their pocket before their arrogance will force them to listen. I know for a fact that management in several departments "hate" that man and I know that is a strong word.

Moving Forward
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 3 days ago
Joined: 12/27/2005 - 7:35pm
Has the new Hudson Notice

Has the new Hudson Notice come out yet? If they're still running on the same schedule, it should be coming out soon and will likely ask for another increase in dues/fees to be charged...and this statement can and should be challenged by the membership! You're getting hosed by the union/PAC puppet masters, and that just isn't right. It's time for the fraudulent accounting practices must be stopped, and all of the involved bosses/staff should be held accountable for their actions.

By the way, last year's Hudson Notice for MSEA-SEIU [url=http://www.mseaseiu.org/forms/08-hudson.pdf]is posted here[/url] for your reference. The bulk of inaccurate information falls within the spreadsheet column which illustrates their so-called "Total chargeable expenses" (page 11).

If a Procedural Audit was done to review how this column of information was calculated with little/no supporting documentation, union members would realize just how badly they're being hosed by the union/PAC puppet masters...and I guarantee that would happen if only a fair and truly impartial Procedural Audit would be done.

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
BiddlefordSteve, MSEA

BiddlefordSteve,

MSEA Management knows these staged protests in front of the Capitol are futile, that's why they stage them as the political optical illusions they are to let members (at least the stupid ones) think MSEA Managment is doing something for them when in fact they're not. MSEA Management (Belcher, DeAraujo & Hiltz) also know about the federal remedy via the NLRB, afterall Belcher & DeAraujo are labor lawyers. This is what is meant by what is not said or done is more important than what is said or done.

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
Franco-Republican, I agree

Franco-Republican,

I agree the momentum needs to continue not only with more conversions to fair share status (to slap the arrogance of MSEA Management) but also all the different Chapters (such as the Supervisory Chapters for these department managers) need to start lobbying their MSEA Board of Directors who they have supported and liasoned with to get the ball of meaningful change and reform at MSEA rolling.

Al Greenlaw
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 4 months ago
Joined: 08/23/2002 - 12:01am
I recently spoke with a

I recently spoke with a former co-worker. He indicated that he has filed an age discrimination complaint with the EEOC relating to the loss of the longevity pay. He figures that almost everyone who has lost this benefit is over age 40. Novel idea. I wonder why SEIU didn't think of it?

Al

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
Al Greenlaw, Wow! That is a

Al Greenlaw,

Wow! That is a novel idea. And anybody else so affected should do same and also consider filing a complaint of age discrimination with the Maine Human Rights Commission (MHRC). You can download their easy to print and fill out one page complaint forms from their website.

Ideally, if MSEA-SEIU was any kind of labor union, they'd be coordinating class action lawsuits in Federal District Court, the EEOC and the MHRC on this age discrimination by the State of Maine as well as filing bad faith bargaining complaints with the NLRB. Why?

Well, just guess how the State of Maine lawyers would likely settle all these claims (because they wouldn't have the wherewithall to fight them all)? The State of Maine would simply give back the longevity pay in return for the dropping of all these complaints and lawsuits. This is just fundemental labor lawyering that MSEA labor lawyers Belcher & DeAraujo know all about (or should know all about) but they would rather spend all the MSEA members hard earned dues on labor law firms in Augusta and Portland to fight their own battles rather than the membership's battles.

Now you know why Belcher, DeAraujo & Hiltz said Owen Sullivan was "...ineffective and incompetent" because he was "...too aggressive and litigeous." Sullivan was the one who initially advised MSEA members to take a double-barrelled approach to their labor woes: i.e. file grievances and file complaints with EEOC and or the MHRC. In fact, I have it on very good authority that Belcher, DeAraujo & Hiltz even reprimanded Sullivan for also referring MSEA members to private employment law firms like Johnson & Webbert in Augusta to also sue the State in court. Belcher, DeAraujo & Hiltz actually told Sullivan that such referrals "...detracted from the union as a remedy for their work site problems."

But of course that didn't stop Belcher & DeAraujo from hiring Johnson & Webbert and Drummond & Woodson on MSEA's dime to bail their own sorry asses out (which of course would also explain Belcher's recent refusal to provide MSEA members with information about this).

Wonders of hypocrisy never cease.

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
ECHOS OF BOXER THE HORSE FROM

ECHOS OF BOXER THE HORSE FROM ORWELL’S ANIMAL FARM!

CHECK THIS OUT FROM (I THINK) NARSBARS:

Well the news is out, we finally know (sort of) what is happening to Maine State employees if the State budget passes as it came out of the Budget Committee last night/this morning. Initial reports have State employees having at least 20 state closure days without pay and some sort of health insurance change/co-pay over the course of the next 2 years. (Editor: Since this post, the 10% health care cut, the loss of longevity, loss of merit steps and the loss of the right to bargain have added to the harm done with no negotiations). I think we as State employees have a responsibility do our part to help our State through this difficult time.

http://unionmaine.blogspot.com/2009_06_01_archive.html

WAY TO GO MSEA!

WAY TO INSTILL THAT FIGHTING UNION SPIRIT.

BALDACCI’S COUNTER-INSURGENCY WORKED.

NOW WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY WE’RE PAYING MSEA-SEIU DUES?

BiddefordSteve
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 1 month ago
Joined: 04/03/2008 - 10:51am
You would think that MSEA

You would think that MSEA would have filed these charges already instead of doing marches at the statehouse. after all that is what we pay them to do. work for us. You know, I have been an employee since 1990 and for years I had faiith in the union and thought they fighting for us. Then as time went on I saw what was happening at my workplace. The nepotism of promotions, political favors, totally unethical behavior and yet the union stood by and let it happen. When I went to my dept stewrad he kept on saying "well, they have the right to do that" well, no they don't at least thats what some more recent field reps told me. So now my concern has gone to the union. Its time for them to put up or shut up. If not, get out an let another union come in. maybe then we can get some action.

BiddefordSteve
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 1 month ago
Joined: 04/03/2008 - 10:51am
lol this thread has been

lol this thread has been going on a long time. I hope the silent majority are reading this lol

Sonny Laymatina
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 04/23/2009 - 9:04pm
BiddlefordSteve, This thread

BiddlefordSteve,

This thread has been going on a long time because MSEA-SEIU's political cooption by the Democratic Party of Maine has gone on a long time. And yeah, I too hope all the MSEA Membership is reading this thread and fuming because it's going to take a lot of anger and fury to get matters to a boiling point for meaningful change and reform. Otherwise, it's going to be the same old same old with all of our dues money being spent against our own interests.

Moving Forward
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 3 days ago
Joined: 12/27/2005 - 7:35pm
The old cliche is right,

The old cliche is right, "Nothing changes if nothing changes."
Let's hope the full membership is ready for some positive change, but this now involves a lot more than just state workers (e.g., Maine Turnpike Authority and all of the other organizations "represented" by MSEA-SEIU).

BiddefordSteve
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 1 month ago
Joined: 04/03/2008 - 10:51am
I sent an email to MSEA

I sent an email to MSEA recently where years ago I was told by a field rep and msea legal that they would be looking into something for our chapter but years have passed and have never received an update. I asked if I could have a report on how the investigation has been going. Mr. Hodsdon forwarded my question to msea legal. They couldn't ask the field rep because he is no longer employed by msea (shocker that) I'm hoping that it wasn't put on the back burner but I have fears that it was because when I spoke to my current field rep, (and he seems like a good guy) he told me he would start looking at it as I'm sure he will however after years, msea should have done the research and a report should be handy wouldn't it?

Pages

Log in to post comments