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The Gallaria shooting story

The Gallaria shooting story is unravelling. Looks like the cops may have killed an armed citizen. Details are sketchy.

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And we're getting some

And we're getting some details from the Alabama Galleria shooting:

“New evidence now suggests that while Mr. Bradford may have been involved in some aspect of the altercation, he likely did not fire the rounds that injured the 18-year-old victim,” police said in a statement Friday night as they announced that the state would be taking over the investigation.

Uh-oh.

“While moving toward the shooting scene, one of the officers encountered a suspect brandishing a pistol and shot him,” police wrote in their first public statement, immediately after the shooting. In their revised statement the following evening, they said Bradford was shot and killed while “fleeing the shooting scene while brandishing a handgun.”

I give very little credibility to the police claims here, maybe about 5%. "Brandishing" is a specific action, is designed to intentionally threaten or intimidate and is a more purposeful action than merely holding, carrying, displaying or showing. However, it's also a buzzwords police will use to justify a shooting.

“That boy didn’t shoot at nobody. He’s dead!” a man down the corridor says, as officers stand over Bradford and pin someone else to the ground. “They just killed that black boy for no reason. . . . He probably got a gun license and everything.”

Bradford did have a license to carry a concealed gun, according to the civil rights attorney Ben Crump, who was hired by the family

The witness' claims here seem to have more veracity.

“We regret that our initial media release was not totally accurate, but new evidence indicates that it was not,” police wrote.

However, do they regret that they killed the wrong man? The police chief was running for the microphone just after the event, however, now he seems to have clammed up.

I think when all is said and spoken for, we'll see that this would be similar to the Midlothian incident - while there was still panic, the violent event was over - until the police showed up and killed an innocent citizen.

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Police later issued another

Police later issued another statement saying Bradford Jr. had brandished a weapon, only to recant those remarks as well, saying Bradford Jr. "had a gun in his hand" when police shot him.

Dad of man killed by police in Alabama mall gets apology but few answers

See previous post. The police have rescinded the earlier dubious "brandishing" claim.

Surprise!

The family has said that Bradford Jr. was not at the mall with any of the victims or the suspect. He went there with his cousin and two friends, and possessing a permit to carry a weapon, pulled out his gun after the shooting began. He was helping people escape danger when he was killed, the family says.

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When he arrived, the scene in

When he arrived, the scene in the bar parking lot about 45 miles south of Pittsburgh was chaotic, but McLee recognized a man holding a gun. Surveillance video from the bar shows McLee approach the man, take the weapon and quickly toss it in a grassy area between cars.

Man Who Disarmed Gunman Files Lawsuit Against 4 Pa. State Troopers

Guy was a hero. Disarmed a potential shooter, and immediately discarded the gun.

Bravo!

Dangerous situation over - the public is safe, although scared and confused.

Guess who is also scared and confused:

McLee, 29, alleged that four Pennsylvania State Troopers lied in a police report about the incident and falsified charges against him after one of the troopers fired two shots at him and struck a nearby house.

Came all the way out there - have to take a shot at someone. !

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And of course - fatal force

And of course - fatal force for not following police instructions:

It was shortly after 05:00 when three West Milwaukee police officers broke into the home of 22-year-old Adam Trammell to find him naked and bewildered, standing in his bathtub as water from the shower ran down his body.

Adam was not armed and he did not appear to behave in a threatening manner. But he did not leave the shower as the police commanded.

The officers then fired their Tasers at him 15 times, administering long, painful electric shocks as he screamed and writhed in the bathtub.


Then more officers arrived, and after dragging him, still naked, from his apartment, they held him down and he was injected with sedatives - midazolam at first, and then ketamine.


Moments later, Adam stopped breathing. He was taken to hospital and pronounced dead soon after arrival.

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