Maine Senate Republicans criticize LePage’s comments, actions in upcoming OpEd

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to read some related articles

to read some related articles concerning this issue check out my blog and comments at http://themaineteaparty.com/profiles/blogs/comments-about-articles-about...

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Roger Ek: "You need to read

Roger Ek: "You need to read more than one post, ODF."

And you need to read what I wrote.

I have read and reread this thread and read and reread the articles and I see no mention of any of them objecting to the governors budget. As a matter of fact the BDN says exactly the opposite.

That is why I asked YOU to point me to where you got your information that the group of republicans is blocking the LePage budget.

Can you do that please Mr Ek?

Thanks.

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So let me get this straight,

So let me get this straight, Katz agrees completely with the Governor's policies and agenda. He wants Maine "open for business". So then, what exactly is wrong with national exposure? hmmmm? Look, I am the first to agree Paul is a bull in a china shop. A good businessman, one who builds a company and bottom line usually is....and that doesn't necessarily mix well with the elitist and politics in general. This isn't politics in general.....this is a state in crisis. If folks are talking about Maine nationally, good! maybe they'll come visit. Maybe a CEO somewhere reads an article and digs a little deeper....just maybe. All the republicans need to get together and go to work.
Not on properly cleaned off cars from a snowstorm, not on reducing fossil fuel consumption, not tip reporting, but lower taxes, less spending, and fiscal responsibility.

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jmcards: "So then, what

jmcards: "So then, what exactly is wrong with national exposure? hmmmm? Look, I am the first to agree Paul is a bull in a china shop. A good businessman, one who builds a company and bottom line usually is....and that doesn't necessarily mix well with the elitist and politics in general."

National exposure for his initiatives and budget would be one thing. But thats not what kind of national exposure he has gotten.

He has been the butt of jokes for his "kiss my butt" comment and the mural changing and the comment that he wanted to punch a reporter and the [God help us] women with little beards comment [which was not only stupid but the wrong hormone].

That is the definition of distraction.

Have you seen any national broadcasts which either take him seriously or talk about what he has done so far to help Maine? I dont think there has been anything in the news about it.

What? Oh. He hasnt actually done anything yet? Why would that be? Maybe because of distractions?

He is not a businessman. He is an elected governor and the complaint is that he is not acting like one.

All that aside its kinda funny to watch the tea party ideals and hero worship slam into each other. Its a little like watching the enviros thrown into turmoil when their beloved birds are killed by their pet project the windmills.

I am certain that the governor is more than capable of getting us back on our feet. He has come up with some good ideas and has the support to push them through.

It would just be refreshing to see people stand by their principles instead of the cult of personality and understanding that the criticism of the guy is about his "bull in a china shop" moves not about his goals and proposals.

He seems to have gotten that message.

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ODM, Hard to argue that.

ODM,
Hard to argue that.

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Apr 3, 11:52 AM EDT Maine's

Apr 3, 11:52 AM EDT

Maine's blunt-talking governor rankles many voters

By CLARKE CANFIELD
Associated Press

AUGUSTA, Maine (AP) -- ...snip

You'd have to go back to James Longley, an independent who served from 1975-79, to find anything close to the spiciness coming from LePage, said Kenneth Palmer....
...snip

LePage's brusqueness may be energizing his detractors, but it may also be invigorating his supporters...

"Depending on which side of the fence you're on, you see him as being either very insensitive and careless, or you see him as being a pretty effective strategist," ...

[url=http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MAINE_GOVERNOR?SITE=NHPOR&SECT...

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Longley the most popular

Longley the most popular governor in the past 50 years how is that comparison bad?

Its funny how the same people who bash Olympia are jumping on board with this. Olympia gets a lot of grief but she has never publicly attacked another Republican.

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Please substantiate the claim

Please substantiate the claim that Longley is the most popular Governor for the past 50 years. Based on what?

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LOL

LOL

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Actually, I think a lot of

Actually, I think a lot of regular people secretly gave the thumbs up on the NCAAP comments as they are a partisan, quasi racist group anyway. Don't forget LePage also reversed that ridiculous "Sanctuary State" Executive Order of Baldy's.

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I didn't think that the Old

I didn't think that the Old Guard Republicans could get any more aggressive and ugly in their quest to cling to all the old (losing) ways.
I was wrong.

The sad thing is not what this could do to the Governor; he's got brass you-know-whats and this silly episode will end up being one more example of why we love that fact about him. He's gonna keep on keeping on---you just KNOW that!
The sad thing is to get confirmation of something we've feared: that the senate really WILL be a useless entity for Mainers looking to really improve things over the next two years (and that's best case scenario).

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I am not exactly sure how

I am not exactly sure how this is the "Old Guard's" fault.

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Do you support Governor

Do you support Governor LePage?
If so, I sincerely hope you will respond to this Op-Ed (see below) with supporting online comments and/or your own Letter to the Editor.

PPH -- Maine Voices: Governor's rhetoric interferes with goals, say GOP state senators
@ [url=http://www.pressherald.com/opinion/governors-rhetoric-interferes-with-go... Here[/url]

KJ -- MAINE COMPASS: Tired of diversions from 'government by disrespect'
@ [url=http://www.kjonline.com/opinion/tired-of-diversions-from-government-by-d... Here[/url]

MS -- MAINE COMPASS: Tired of diversions from 'government by disrespect'
@ [url=http://www.onlinesentinel.com/opinion/tired-of-diversions-from-governmen... Here[/url]

If there was every a good time to get behind your horse in the race, IMO, that time is now.

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Posted: April 4 Updated:

Posted: April 4
Updated: Today at 12:52 AM
Maine Voices: Governor's rhetoric interferes with goals, say GOP state senators
Fellow Republicans believe he will rein in personal criticism of opponents for the sake of comity.

AUGUSTA – As Republican senators, we all want Gov. LePage and his administration to succeed.

We should be focused like a laser on the agenda the governor laid out – reducing our tax burden, getting rid of unnecessary government regulation that stifles innovation and entrepreneurship, and putting into place thoughtful welfare reform.

Instead, we find ourselves continually diverted, responding to yet another example of our chief executive picking a personal fight not worth fighting.

http://www.pressherald.com/opinion/governors-rhetoric-interferes-with-go...

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Governor LePage story on "The

Governor LePage story on "The Blaze" now. Overwhelmingly positive comments about our awesome governor. Three pages of them so far from all over the country. This is great!! The "April Fools" and their Op-Ed have inadvertantly given the Governor a new sack of political cachet he can spend as he sees fit. I love it! Keep telling it like it is, Paul.

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Saviello and Sherman are on

Saviello and Sherman are on the Environment and Natural Resources Committee.
Rector is on the Labor and Commerce Committee.

Will their votes in committee prove their adherence to this bit in their article?
It is how we manage that conflict that matters. And "how" you do something is often as important as "what" you do.

My hope is they're able to knock down statist stuff and advance pro-freedom stuff while exhibiting the manners of Emily Post.

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THis is what happens when

THis is what happens when you're used to groveling. You get stuck in that rut, afraid to speak, afraid to look anyone in the eye, so afraid of offending anyone or anything that you become self defeatist. Is MPBN going to be televising the Reconciliation party? PLease send your used jeans to the GOP in Augusta so they don't have to wear out the knees in their 3 piece suits while crawling accross the aisles to beg forgiveness. WE"RE NOT LIKE THE OTHERS......spare us, hold our hand and guide us like you have for so many years before. We don't feel ready yet to be leaders........

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Oh, that it could be so.

Oh, that it could be so.

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oops

oops

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"National exposure for his

"National exposure for his initiatives and budget would be one thing. But thats not what kind of national exposure he has gotten.

He has been the butt of jokes for his "kiss my butt" comment and the mural changing and the comment that he wanted to punch a reporter and the [God help us] women with little beards comment [which was not only stupid but the wrong hormone].

That is the definition of distraction.

Have you seen any national broadcasts which either take him seriously or talk about what he has done so far to help Maine? I dont think there has been anything in the news about it.

What? Oh. He hasnt actually done anything yet? Why would that be? Maybe because of distractions?

He is not a businessman. He is an elected governor and the complaint is that he is not acting like one.

All that aside its kinda funny to watch the tea party ideals and hero worship slam into each other. Its a little like watching the enviros thrown into turmoil when their beloved birds are killed by their pet project the windmills. "

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So let’s see…

The left wing media and pundits have decided the very minor gaffes are topics of national exposure. I find it pathetic they rail against LePage while giving their own a pass for the same faux pas. They have decided to make them issues of distraction, completely ignoring the core issues, because those won’t cause controversy and strife. This is why we have not seen anything of substance, because it’s not reported on, not because nothing is being done on those issues.

He was elected governor, without a doubt. So he is not as polished as the left would like, not bi-partisan and willing to bow to superficial ideals…I have no problem with that. We have a vast history of what spit and polish has done for the state, and only have to look as far as the White House to see it today.

I do not see the “tea party ideals and hero worship slam into each other”. Liberal and pseudo-republicans would love to see that happen, but just because they wish to see it, doesn’t make it so. Instead I see a few scared self-serving politicians trying to throw LePage under the bus to foster their own careers in an attempt to appease the media. His base is still in place and doesn’t care what “style” points others give him. Meat and potatoes aren’t pretty, but rather the main staple, not tofu and soy milk.

Have any of them spoken out about anything of substance, or just followed the liberal leash leading them to their agenda-du-jour?

I have 3 words people should consider that I believe epitomizes the very core of real Maine principles: “Function before beauty”.

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JFred - do you have a link to

JFred - do you have a link to the "Blaze" you mentioned? (this may be a nickname for a publication, but I'm not sure).
Thank you.

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http://www.theblaze.com/,

http://www.theblaze.com/, Great videos of our leaders, no spin, no editing just their own words.

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Thank you, Islander.

Thank you, Islander.

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No problem, there are some

No problem, there are some intersting videos that you will not see in the news, especially uncut.

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This is a link to Dan

This is a link to Dan Demeritt, talking this morning on WVOM about the Senators' op-ed.

http://www.asmainegoes.com/audio/110404_demerrit_wvom.mp3

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Phil Harriman (who I really

Phil Harriman (who I really like and respect) gave a wishy-washy nonresponse to a very direct question on WCHS 6 this morning. He was asked why the group of Republicans decided to publish their concerns in newspaper (the Socialist PPH at that!) rather than deal with the matter among themselves and the Gubbner. He just could not answer that question. He rambled on a to a meaningless end. Can happen to anyone I guess.

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from a tea party

from a tea party member...some of my take on the articles about LePage...
http://themaineteaparty.com/profiles/blogs/comments-about-articles-about...

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I am the oldest of 4 boys in

I am the oldest of 4 boys in my family. When we were young lads, I can recall my Dad giving us a "talk." Dad is one of few words, a WWII vet of action in the Pacific, but as gentle a soul as you'll ever meet. I remember this talk like it was yesterday and it is all I can think of when I read about those 8 (expletive deleted) that signed that Op-Ed. Here is what he told us Stone boys, as close as I can get it.

"We settle our disagreements within the four walls of this house. If someone attacks any one of you outside these four walls, they are attacking all of us. We stick together and the four of you will fight as one, if a fight is required."

Dad is a straightforward man who has lived a strong 86 and will pass from this earth some day with very few, if any, enemies. I am blessed to have a father with a backbone and integrity. I feel sorry for the 8 senators who never had a chance to meet Dad. They might have learned a thing or two.

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These 8 seem like decent

These 8 seem like decent folks, doing a lot of work for little money (certainly Roger Sherman is a good guy). I do have to note the unfortunate fact that once again, the public face of Republicanism is almost entirely male. Yikes.

I don't blame them for being frustrated. It is never easy being in the thick of things as they are, and it's certainly been even more..........interesting lately.
But they needed to just calm down and remember that it's a long, hard road. Instead they got caught up in the daily crap of the moment, and flew off the handle and spit out that column.

The whole column is a roundabout way of saying one thing: "we don't believe there is really any need to rock the boat". (They couldn't come right out and say that).
I profoundly disagree with that belief.

As to this being something you would expect from the "old guard" of the Republican Party, I have done some research: Saviello has been in for 8 years, Sherman for 12 years, Rector for 8 years, McCormick for 8 years, and Katz is carrying on a family tradition, so to speak. Then we toss in the Senate leadership, which one assumes knew of this (and in my humble opinion, approved). Now, what's also interesting is that almost all of the 8 are fairly conservative economically, but when it comes to social issues, education, etc. they are generally quite a bit to the left of the party. (The exception here is surely Sherman, who has baffled me with his participation). That fits the general template of the GOP "civil war" over the last forty years, anyways.
So there is a whole lot more going on here than just, "we're Republicans who believe that LePage should be nicer". (Speaking of "niceness", while the governor may offer off the cuff quips and comebacks, it is clear for any fair-minded person to see that he usually does it with a good humored smile and easygoing demeanor which means there is very little "there" there.....that he's NOT being incivil, and in fact is quick to apologize and pledge to do better when he's goofed. Compare that to the legislation sponsored by four of these authors, which would ban smokers from receiving Mainecare. Talk about demonization and unthinking meanness! Now you have to admit, however you feel about the merits of the bill, that would cause much more hurt than just a few "hurt feelings" on the part of sensitive types! Even "nasty old Paul LePage" only proposed random drug tests for Mainecare recipients!)

Finally, check out the homepages of all 8, and notice they are all trumpeting identical copious "news stories" on their homepages..............and guess what they're trumpeting! Of course, this is undoubtedly the GOP senate office at work, but it's STILL the senators who are responsible for their homepages. Tacky, cheap, unneccessary, and just plain ignorant.

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Jim Cyr - Is it really

Jim Cyr - Is it really unfortunate that the Republican face is male? How so? Are males really such a bad species? Are females that much better? What do you mean and why?

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