Health care bill is 7 votes short

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Health care bill is 7 votes short

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republicans-are-still-seven-votes-s...

There are 52 GOP senators, so they can only afford to lose 2 votes.

There are 4 who think the bill is too liberal (Rand Paul the most vocally against it, it's likely nothing can be done to win his vote), and 4 who think the bill is too conservative (Murkowski hasn't really commented one way or another but is expected to be against it).

Obviously it's not over until it's over, but things don't look very good.

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If Rand Paul is correct, this

If Rand Paul is correct, this bill should not pass. How can they keep something so stupid as the "pre-existing" clause. That clause is not insurance at all.. it is welfare.

There are many other stupid sections. One was that to be subsidized for premiums, income has nothing to do with it...only age. How dumb is that. Welfare for millionaires? There is more.

The Republicans are just as dumb and ineffectual has I thought they were. What losers.

Where are the facts"? I searched for an analysis of the bill and almost every source was a Liberal/Swine group...CNN, MSNBC, NPR, NYT et al. I ignored all of them as we know they lie.

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There is a new amendment

There is a new amendment going around (Cruz-Lee amendment):
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-13/new-healthcare-bill-will-includ...

The subsidized premiums as a function of age instead of income was a big conservative ask - they never like means testing in any kind of benefit.

Pre-existing conditions with replacing the individual mandate with a fee is probably a recipe for disaster.

New Cruz-Lee amendment restores the taxes on the wealthy (a good thing, of course!), adds $45 bb to fight opioid addiction (not sure exactly what that means, but hey, nobody likes opioid addiction).

Also allows existing ACA plans to be sold, but allows for non-ACA compliant plans to be sold alongside (as presumably a significantly cheaper price).

Rand Paul is still against it, as is Collins. Which means they need to get everybody else (maybe they just fly a plane over Nevada and drop $100 bills in exchange for their vote).

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A-C, this GOP plan is a real

A-C, this GOP plan is a real stinker. What slobs we have running Congress.

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Agreed. I guess the good news

Agreed. I guess the good news (depending on your point of view) is that it has a snowball's chance in Hell of passing.

Question now is, if it fails to pass, what happens next? Do they just punt and work on the budget? The two are kind of attached at the hip because it's such a huge part of the budget.

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I wonder if we'll ever know

I wonder if we'll ever know what Ryan and/or McConnel have demanded from Trump and is keeping them from moving this thing through.

I heard Suzie on the radio, today. She said Mitch won't be surprised that she won't support it. No, Suzie, probably not. And Trump has probably had his fill of lobster rolls, by now.

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Suzy gave us Obama care. Why

Suzy gave us Obama care. Why would she want to replace it?

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"Suzy gave us Obama care. Why

"Suzy gave us Obama care. Why would she want to replace it?"

Huh? She voted against it, and voted for the "fake repeal" (that is, the repeal when Obama was obviously going to veto it).

How do you come by the idea that she "gave" it to us?

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Her vote brought it to the

Her vote brought it to the floor. Without her it dies in committee. She voted against it later, but the damage was done. Her BFF Obama was thrilled.

She was the darling of the media

Ms. Snowe’s remarks silenced the packed committee room, riveted colleagues and thrilled the White House. President Obama had sought her vote, hoping that she would break with Republican leaders and provide at least a veneer of bipartisanship to the bill, which he has declared his top domestic priority.

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Umm that link (and your quote

Umm that link (and your quote) talks about Olympia Snowe, not Susan Collins.

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My mistake. I knew one of our

My mistake. I knew one of our senators was the reason we have Obama care. Never argue politics when you're vacationing.

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If you're on vacation, you

If you're on vacation, you should not be online at all, and certainly not on AMG. Go fishing or something.

Edit: unless you're regular job is fishing, in which case being online would be a vacation

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Snowe did vote for the bill

Snowe did vote for the bill in committee but, even if she voted no there, the ACA would have come to the floor (13 -10 rather than 14-9). Her committee vote was secured after D leadership agreed to strip the public option from the bill.

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