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Thomas Carter
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George H W Bush

Former President George H W Bush passed away yesterday at the age of 94.

War hero, devoted public servant, and married to the love of his life for over 70 years. Maine summer resident, avid fisherman, and patriarch of an American political dynasty.

A life well lived, I’d say. Condolences to his family and friends.

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Hardly a negative word said

Hardly a negative word said about him in the media. Can Trump expect the same upon his demise? 'taint likely. Respect in death is earned in life.

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"Hardly" is not none. Some

"Hardly" is not none. Some media sources pounced.

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Remember that time George HW

Remember that time George HW Bush got five deferments to avoid World War II?

Or that time George HW Bush cheated on his three wives and paid out money to keep his mistresses silent?

Or that time George HW Bush declared bankruptcy, created a fraudulent university, and took out a full page ad demanding death for some innocent black guys?

Good times...good times.

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Anyone remembr when Smegma

Anyone remembr when Smegma wasn't a POS ?

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George H W Bush was a very

George H W Bush was a very good father, patriot, and person. No doubt about that. Liberals demonized this man when he was President. Ann Richards (poor George, he was born with a silver foot...) and "it's the economy, stupid" , and the disruptive protests while GHW Bush was at church by AIDS activists who somehow thought Bush was responsible for AIDS.... No, things weren't all sunshine and puppy dogs when he was alive. Liberals are always going to be nasty, their memory is just very selective. And opportunistic in that the imaginary good vibes and bipartisan might make for a good tale and a chance to take a shot at 45 - who's only giving democrats what they always can be expected to provide.

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TC too bad you're so stupid

TC too bad you're so stupid that you don't realize that our President wasn't old enough to fight in WWII.

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@Greenee:

@Greenee:
" Liberals are always going to be nasty, their memory is just very selective."

I'll admit I threw him some shade when he was president, though in retrospect he was a great foreign policy leader. TBF, there are some actions that you can't really evaluate in the moment.

The decision to not invade Iraq, but to apply a no fly zone in retrospect was pretty wise, given the subsequent disaster in Iraq that Bush 43 engaged in. (Though we did screw the Kurds pretty badly in our application of the no fly zone.)

And... to address our "nastiness", I'd say the conservatives are pretty much nasty across the board. How many AMGers are kind and polite when discussing Carter/Clinton/Obama???

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Pretty good op-ed by Maureen

Pretty good op-ed by Maureen Dowd:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/02/opinion/george-hw-bush-maureen-dowd.html

I saw him at a restaurant in Kennebunk a while back... he was already in a wheelchair but he had the whole table laughing.

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"And... to address our

"And... to address our "nastiness", I'd say the conservatives are pretty much nasty across the board. How many AMGers are kind and polite when discussing Carter/Clinton/Obama???"

I don't see any comparison. At the BDN forum liberals have behaved despicably - occasionally wishing sickness or death on political foes. Liberals also quickly call foes names, stupid, fascist, racist and rarely are capable of articulating whatever point they are promoting. Right here we have T. Carter blaspheming Christians on a regular basis (though he never says a word about the homo-ciding Muslims) There's Matt and that ilk who never have anything to offer but slurs and insults.
If a conservative responds angrily it's usually reacting to a slur directed at the conservative.

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No President is perfect,none

No President is perfect,none will make all citizens happy.George Bush senior was derided by many as being out of touch with the average American. I remember the Bush presidency as one where our president accomplished much on the world stage ,a man of restraint and composure. Ronald Regan was a hard act to follow ,but Bush carved his own legacy and will be remembered kindly by history.
The difference is stark between the statesman like administration of Bush and the egocentrical I I I I posturing of Obama and Trump ......They could both take a lesson from a great president and a good man.

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LOL. Bush had a far more

LOL. Bush had a far more favorable opinion of Obama than he did of Trump. Clearly, he related well to the former.

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Maybe GHW Bush was afraid of

Maybe GHW Bush was afraid of being called a racist ....obama is the unquestioned king of I I I ..He makes Trump look like a piker....LOL

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Yeah, I don't think so.

Yeah, I don't think so. There is genuine respect and affection between the Obama and Bush families. All the former presidents turn up their noses at Trump's stench.

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Expat please sit esome

Expat please sit esome examples of Bush seniors respect for Obama......I don’t disagree with his distaste for for Trump ,but ....

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Yet the failure of one son

Yet the failure of one son couldn't allow them to keep thier mouths shut, a very small failing in scheme of things but a failing IMO.

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So I watched the funeral

So I watched the funeral yesterday...I found it funny that the man your orange savior called a Kenyan-born Muslim could recite the Apostles’ Creed, yet your conservative evangelical president and his third wife could not.

They didn’t sing any of the hymns either.

I’m sure you guys have some sort of rationalization for this one?

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You'll never cease to amaze

You'll never cease to amaze me, Carter.

A perfect pair of bookends . . the (invited) Carters on one end and likely the only two who can cite scripture by heart . . and the Trumps on the other, respectfully tight lipped. In the middle, two sets of complete jackass, hypocrites faking it. All praise to the jackass hypocrites.

For the record, Apollo Creed got his ass kicked, so . .

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Could not or chose not to ?

Could not or chose not to ? For whatever reason.

Didn't remember him being the evangelical president or was he voted for by evangelicals ?

Sing maybe they couldn't and chose not to for some religious reason.

If they did those things you would have criticized that also.

By the way Joe Biden appeared quite orange himself,you weren't paying attention probably.

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Maybe they forgot to write

Maybe they forgot to write his hymnal in crayon?

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I think most people watching

I think most people watching the services yesterday were moved, I know I was as I heard people speak about President Bush. A classy, non judgemental Christian who gave freely to his Nation. I realized how far short I fall - in personal relationships, time with family, energy, and public service.
Thomas Carter is watching Trump, rather than realizing how far short he falls - mocking a person's faith or even trying to pass judgement on how strong another person's faith might be. Clearly, Carter is a miserable, cynical person intruding stupidly into another person's faith.

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Green-ee:

Green-ee:

Honest question. Do you think Trump has even a shred of faith? Do you think he has ever asked for forgiveness of his sins? Or prayed for guidance? He wouldn’t know Matthew 5:39 if it smacked him in the face.

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I don't think that Trump is a

I don't think that Trump is a devout Christian; his "two Corinthians" speech sounded like someone not very familiar with the Bible. Other than opposing abortion, what makes you think that Trump is forcing his religious beliefs (whatever they may be) on Americans? One needs not be Christian to oppose abortion - or homosexuality - many secular Americans do as well.
Remember Bill Clinton with his suitcase sized Bible he would lug into church? Obama's Reverend Wright... Did you ever listen to that guy? Reverend Al Sharpton or Reverend Jessie Jackson? They've both sinned and appear not to have lived a sin free life.
I'm a Christian - albeit not a very good one. I sin and I don't know anyone who doesn't. G.W. Bush said yesterday that his Dad loved jokes, especially off color jokes. Does that make Bush a hypocrite?
It would be better if Trump could tone down the anger and insults, but honestly, Trump gives as good as he gets. Most men would have caved by now. In Washington DC how well do you think any politician would do if he or she turned the other cheek?

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