Epidemic- “my foot”

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pmconusa
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Epidemic- “my foot”

Each year in the United States, 2.9 million people are injured in car accidents. Of that number over 42,000 are killed, about 0.00001% of the population. Of those killed, 3000 were killed by drunk drivers. It can be safely assumed that the vast majority of these incidents were caused by people who broke the rules, either exceeding safe speeds or driving under the influence.

There are 16,000 people murdered in the United States or 0.00004% of the population. Murder is against the law. Over 43,000 die of drug overdoses each year or 0.0001%. Overdosing on drugs is a consequence of the lack of self-control or self-governance.

The total of the above deaths is 101,000 out of a total population now approaching or even exceeding 400 million because the government cannot count us all. That is 0.0003 % of the total population or if you believe the government census of 325 million 0.00031%.

Europe, where drugs for the most part are legal, experienced 8400 deaths out of a population of over 738 million or 0.00001%.

In the first place, the government has no authority (power) to ban or even control the trade in opioids or marijuana for the matter. In the second place, it has no authority to force me through taxes to pay for the rehabilitation of people who cannot or will not control their own habits to the detriment of themselves and those who might be their unwitting victims.

In a world of over 8 billion, there are always going to be a very small minority who defy the rules because most of them cannot be enforced except through self-control. The lives of the rest of us should not be impacted in any way by this miniscule number.

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1% of 330 million = 3.3

1% of 330 million = 3.3 million

0.1% of 330 million = 0.33 million, or 330,000

0.01% of 330 million = 0.033 million, or 33,000

If you don't believe me, you can read it in a book.

Or, you can just believe everything somebody else tells you, instead of looking in a book, like all the stupid people do.

What part of ~ 8 billion is 1?

You know, the only 1 who can count the population of the US, and the world.

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Not a very good economist

Not a very good economist that slips a decimal point by 2 places.

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OUCH!!!!

OUCH!!!!

That's gonna leave a mark...

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Having earned my bachelors

Having earned my bachelors degree in mathematics it is quite embarrassing to have made such an error. The point still is that 42,000 drug related deaths are still represents .003 of the population and the conclusion this is not an epidemic warranting the government taxing those not involved to pay for those who are. Besides, they are not empowered by the Constitution to do it in the first place, nor are they empowered to prohibit drug use.

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Which stimulates the question

Which stimulates the question: are humans, and other members of the animal world, addicted to kcals? And water?

By the way, one of the things I learned in earning my bachelors degree in EE, was what I remember as a "test of reasonableness." It had to do with use of the slide-rule, among other things, and whether results were within a logical window of expectation......

That ingrained instinct in my mind immediately kicked in when reading your figures.

As it does in less quantitative assertions and narrative meanderings of yours.

Those who don't recognize it in this formalized structure may have their own version that often surfaces as "this doesn't pass the smell test."

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In all your verbosity you

In all your verbosity you have yet to challenge my contention that the opioid epidemic is indeed an epidemic as we would classify an epidemic even in a broad sense. Even Webster does not provide a finite number but merely asserts a great number. This too is not specific and leaves it to the rational mind to conjure a figure. What is it, 10%, 20%, each has his own interpretation but I would doubt anyone would say no one would class as an epidemic anything that effects less than 1% of the population.

An Independent queries his Republican friend asking how much is two and two. The Republican pulls out a calculator, punches in some numbers and replies, four. He then asks a Democrat the same question and he holds up his hand, counts out his finger and replies, four. He then asks a Progressive the same question. The Progressive looks around to see if anyone is watching and then whispers, how much would you like it to be?

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Another powerful retort.

Another powerful retort.

"A rose by any other name...."

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Apparently your method of

Apparently your method of calculation was of the "how much would you like it to be" variety.

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Deaths in the opioid world

Deaths in the opioid world are only the end result of the problem.
Consider the number of people that are negatively affected by this epidemic and you will start to understand just how widespread it is.
Multiply that 43,000 by thirty.

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That still means less than 1%

That still means less than 1%, not nearly the amount of alcoholics who abuse alcohol. My point in this discussion is that the government is taking money from you and I through taxes to provide relief or substitutes to those who cannot govern themselves and we don't get to say they cannot do this. I'd like to make $20,000 per year for doing nothing. It seems the government agrees and pays me that amount by taking it from working folks in taxes the government calls Social Security. On top of this I didn't even have to ask.

By the way, you think the money that is being taken from you to pay for your retirement is being held in trust? Think again, it is being paid to people like me.

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No! How can that be?????

No! How can that be?????

You can't give away money you don't have!!!

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Tell that to the government

Tell that to the government that just prints what it needs and calls it borrowing. $20 trillion worth and growing.

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Gotcha. It's very clear you

Gotcha. It's very clear you are a master at picking up on subtlety and irony.

Me, I'm always sincere, whether I mean it or not.

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Good for you but sincerity

Good for you but sincerity does not put food on the table.

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Looks like unlimited gotchas

Looks like unlimited gotchas available.

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Those headed to the bank are

Those headed to the bank are laughing. Those headed to the poorhouse are not. Which do you think is growing the largest of these two?

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