Banning guns

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pmconusa
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Banning guns

Irrespective of the Second Amendment, a federal law banning the purchase or possession of specific arms would be unconstitutional as an ex post facto law.

The debate over what the second amendment really means is moot, because all it does is give the people of the states the right to BEAR arms. That is to constitute militia for the purpose of defend the state against attack, which in 1789 was against the Indians and the probable incursion again by the British or even the French, who had made war against the colonies with the Indians. Individual ownership of guns was never an issue and the manufacture of firearms and their ownership was not prohibited, nor could it be.

The Constitution of the United States and the constitution of Maine does not give the government the power to ban anything and that includes the manufacture of alcohol, tobacco or anything else, including opioids or marijuana. If anyone disagrees I would ask them to cite the specific authorization and the purpose for which it was intended. Let the debate begin. I would remind those who want to cite the U. S. Constitution that the original document made the States and counterfeiters, pirates and those who commit treason against the United States its only constituents and not the people of the States who are constituents of their own individual constitutions. The States then were sovereign.

Bruce Libby
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WTF.

WTF.

Toolsmith
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Tenth Amendment

Tenth Amendment
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

The people are very specifically mentioned...

Mike G
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And now that we have some 17

And now that we have some 17 year old snot nose and the corporate media pushing their identity politics and anti-liberty propaganda, all any sane man can say is come and take them, because anything else is just saying kill us by a thousand cuts, we are up to 900.

pmconusa
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Toolsmith: Not in the

Toolsmith: Not in the context of constituents. The only thing the people yielded to government was the police power, both at the state and federal level. It was the only thing the States could cede to a federal authority at the Constitutional Convention. We have long since forgotten the real purpose of the Constitution, that was a mutual defense pact for the defense of the States. The tenth amendment was intended to reinforce that the concession of that power was the only thing ceded to a federal authority. The breakdown occurred with the very first Congress where Hamilton convinced Washington to establish a National Bank and to give the Judiciary the power to establish law. The Constitution makes no mention of establishing corporations and Jefferson and Edmund Randolph argued against it as not being within the powers of the Congress. We know how that disagreement ended. If you read the act establishing the Judiciary it runs several dozen pages and in it expands the authority of the court well beyond the power to adjudicate disputes.

The entire document became unglued when John Marshall in his opinion on the case of McCulloch versus Maryland in 1819 stated the Congress could do most anything not prohibited by the Constitution. We have been going down hill ever since.

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WTF WTF WTF.

WTF WTF WTF.

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