Route 111, one of the state's most deadly roadways

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pmrmsm
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Route 111, one of the state's most deadly roadways

At least five people are hurt follwing a crash in Alfred Friday night.
The York County Sheriff's Department says three vehicles were involved in the crash, which happened on Route 111 near the York County Court House around 6pm.
Sanford Police are investigating the crash.

WGME

My question here is why is Sanford investigating this accident when the York County Sheriff's Department is only just a couple of miles away or why isn't the Maine State Police investigating this with them being about 4 to 5 miles away. The MSP are situated on the Lyman, Waterboro, Alfred town lines and the YCSD is only 2 miles from the Superior Court House if at that.

Naran
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That road continues to claim

That road continues to claim lives... and cause serious injuries. I avoid it whenever possible.

pmrmsm
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My brother can attest to

My brother can attest to that. This guy a few years back ran my brother off the road leaving plenty of witnesses to see the whole thing. The guy would speed up and slow down and then speed up and slow down. My brother had had enough of this and decided to pass this guy and this idiot decided oh no you don't, you are not passing me and ran him into the ditch on the opposite side of the road where my brother almost hit a utility pole, actually over the ditch. My brother and the witnesses said that my brother was not following closely, but my brother like many of them wanted to pass this guy. None of them got a license plate of this vehicle...all they had was a vehicle description and to our knowledge, they never found the guy. My brother was not seriously hurt, just some scrapes and bruises. He said when he saw that ditch and he gunned it so he would go over it and not in it. So he missed the utility pole and went over the ditch. I call that luck and quick reflexes.

Robert
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That road continues to claim

That road continues to claim lives...

Why is that Naran? I have only been on that road a couple of times in the past. Is it the road, or the drivers?

Naran
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Both, Robert. Rt. 111 is

Both, Robert. Rt. 111 is head-to-head traffic that sometimes exceeds 65 mph (not legally, but people do speed), hills, frequent turns and street cuts, etc.

Look up the stories - too many people have died on 111 for comfort.

pmrmsm
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With the exception of I-95

With the exception of I-95 and Route-1, it is the most heavily traveled road in southern Maine. It has the highest number of traffic accidents and traffic fatalities of any other road in the state. A lot of the accidents are at major intersections like 202 and 111 as well as 35 and 111. The other major reason for a lot of these accidents is vehicle to vehicle like drunk driving or excessive speed...then there are the many deer and moose that stray out of the woods.

Tom C
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The guy would speed up and

The guy would speed up and slow down and then speed up and slow down.... decided to pass this guy and this idiot decided oh no you don't

I do a LOT of in-state driving, and I have run into this several times. I don't know if people do this deliberately, or what the story is.

A few years ago I'm following an old Cadillac being driven by a guy in a cowboy hat (Clue: If a guy is wearing a big cowboy in Maine, my experience is he's more likely than not to be flat-out batpoop crazy. Your milage may vary.) I go to pass him and he floors it.

About a year ago I'm coming up Route 11 from Mechanic falls and I start to pass a kid in a car doing about 5 or 10 under the limit. He guns it. I back off, then he starts swerving and sticks himself in the OPPOSITE LANE doing about 65, some kind of weird aggressive extremely dangerous behavior. Then he races ahead, pulls over, gets out of his car and makes like he's going to fight me or something. I called the cops, but didn't get his plate.

Most recently, I'm coming out of Naples and the car head of me is below the limit. I wait until I have plenty of clear passing lane in front of me, I drop back about another 30 feet and "slingshot" past him. He speeds up, but can't get fast enough, but sticks his arm out the window and give me the flying finger as I go by.

I don't get it. If someone is trying to pass you, why wouldn't you just let them pass?

On the other side of the coin, tailgaters used to drive me crazy. If a guy is tailgating me, then I'm nervous, and he's probably p!ssed off.

Then I finally figured it out.

Just pull over and let them pass. You'll both be happy.

What a concept.

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Route 111 is an E-W road that

Route 111 is an E-W road that has serious sun issues in the morning and evening. You will see the majority of accidents happen at these times. It is also a heavily traveled road as the major route between Biddeford and Sanford. Throw in some nice straightaways for the teen racers and it just adds up to disaster. I travel it daily.

pmrmsm
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After growing up in Lyman for

After growing up in Lyman for well over 20 years and then commuting to the Biddeford area for work from Sanford, Route 111 was about the only way to go. I do have to say that as a state maintained road in the winter, it was pretty pathetic. After watching and having many near misses with the snowbanks, I traded my front wheel drive car for a 4 wheel drive truck. What a world of difference that made for several years.

Since the intersection re-do in Lyman of 111 and 35 about 5 years back, that intersection seems worse now than it was back then. They have made it darn near impossible for some of those businesses to stay in business because you only have access to them from the east.

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I have traveled Rt 111 many

I have traveled Rt 111 many times...Speeding is much of the problem. Many fly. This makes any lapse in judgement...horrific.

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Portland Press Herald July

Portland Press Herald
July 15, 2010
[b]Fatal accident on Route 111 reported; road closed[/b]
By Edward D. Murphy emurphy@mainetoday.com, Staff Writer

ARUNDEL – A serious accident has closed Route 111 near the town line with Biddeford, where police are reporting at least one fatality.

The York County Sheriff's Department said the accident was reported shortly before 1 p.m., but said they have few details. They said the accident involved major injuries, while a spokeswoman for the Biddeford Police Department said there was at least one fatality.

. . .

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Fatal-accident-on-.html

I had to detour around this accident at Old Alfred Road from Route 111 down to Precourt Street. Could not see anything before making the turn. I noticed the Biddeford Police station has an electronic sign and they were advising people avoid Route 111 because of a fatal accident.

Steven Scharf
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pmrmsm
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Maine State Police said one

Maine State Police said one person was killed Friday afternoon in a crash on Route 111 in Alfred.
The crash happened around 4:30 p.m. at the intersection of Route 111 and Saco Road, not too far from the York County courthouse.
Police said the operator of the bike, a 45-year-old man, died at the scene. A female passenger was taken to Maine Medical Center in Portland with non-life-threatening injuries.

WMTW

Here we go again. In the comments section of this story somebody asked if a set of straight pipes might of helped them get noticed. I know where Saco Road is and how you can not see a motorcycle on this straight a way is beyond me. I would say the driver of the car was not paying attention.

Naran
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Like I've said previously, I

Like I've said previously, I avoid that road whenever possible.
Prayers for the family of the victim, and hope the passenger makes a full recovery...

pmrmsm
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NH Lawmaker Involved In Fatal

NH Lawmaker Involved In Fatal Crash
A New Hampshire lawmaker has been involved in a fatal accident with a motorcyclist in Maine.
Maine state police said Republican state Rep. Laurie Boyce of Alton, N.H., turned left onto Route 111 in Alfred into the path of the motorcycle, killing Shane McCarthy, 45, of Lee, N.H.

WMTW

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Snow causes crashes, slows

Snow causes crashes, slows morning traffic
"This is unbelievable today," said Maj. William King, of the York County Sheriff's Office. "Route 111, it's just like a skating rink."
In one case, a tractor-trailer jack-knifed and while the driver was able to regain control of the rig, a teacher heading to Lyman Elementary School swerved and went off the road, hitting a sign. Farther down the road, a pickup went off the pavement, others lost control and went off the road.

PPH

Makes one wonder if people were driving too fast for conditions or if the state just had not been out to plow or salt or sand or something.

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Was out in that neck of the

Was out in that neck of the woods this morning. The roads did not look slick, but combine the light snow falling and single digits temps with heavy morning commuter traffic, and before you knew it black ice was in place. No way to tell while rolling along until time to slow down or turn. DOT was out and about, but the trucks were likely hindered by traffic back ups at crash scenes.

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Route 109 in Sanford is more

Route 109 in Sanford is more dangerous than Route 111
It may come as a surprise to many, but far more accidents occurred on Route 109 — Sanford's main thoroughfare — than on Route 4, Route 202 or Route 111 from 2007 to 2009. In fact, Route 109 saw more than 50 percent more accidents than occurred on Route 111 during the same period.
Those statistics are among the data gathered by the Central York County Connections Study team during the first phase of a 16-month study…

Sanford News

They say it has more accidents, but nothing about it being the most deadly like has been said about Route 111. There are some poorly designed areas of Route 109 where lanes merge together. I remember when there were two lanes at one time going from South Sanford to intown and then they narrowed to one lane. After this was done, the accidents increased dramatically.

Bruce Libby
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Note: Post signs on road

Note:
Post signs on road telling motorists that Moose cross in area!! Drivers still hit Moose!

Talk about RT111 for three years plus of danger claims, drivers (most of whom are commuters) still get in accidents on road!!! Go fiqure.

Must be human nature!!

Naran
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Having traveled both 109 and

Having traveled both 109 and 111 for years, I believe that improper speed is a big issue with accidents. The straight, wide nature of both roads lends itself to people going too fast. One blink, one cell call + head-to-head traffic traveling at 60 mph = bad things.

pmrmsm
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They were only referring to

They were only referring to the stretch of Route 109 in Sanford itself. From my own experience and living there for many years many years ago, it was people trying to beat traffic lights, other people trying to beat traffic then as they merge into their lane, doing all this at high speed and weaving in and out of traffic just to gain a few cars in line. If timed correctly, you could have passed 15 or 20, but always putting yourself and somebody else at risk.

I actually saw this happen, one time where somebody came flying out of the Walmart parking lot driving a Jeep made a left hand turn passed three vehicles and tried to squeeze into the merging traffic and could not get onto the brakes fast enough and rear ended a Volvo which was doing about 20mph. The driver of the Jeep admitted to be driving about 45 to 50mph. The third vehicle that managed to avoid the collision did so by driving up onto somebody's lawn.

Naran
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Your comments remind me of

Your comments remind me of why I travel to Sanford a lot less, since that new rotary went into place. The former intersection that used traffic lights has now become a rotary free-for-all at various times of the day.

(Northarrow --- I can hear you lurking... no cheap shots about women drivers...)
lol

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That is because like most

That is because like most women drivers, they don't understand the concept of a rotary...they try to drive straight through it...and never slowly. My wife's excuse is to straighten it out.

You didn't say anything about me.
:)

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It's all about who is on the

It's all about who is on the seat. Cars, front end loaders, bulldozers,
trucks, and the list goes on.
The road doesn't cause the problem, the driver does.
I've towed or driven cars to Sanford dragway down 111 in years past,
you just had to pay
attention.

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Naran
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9:29 AM Accident on Route 111

9:29 AM
Accident on Route 111 in Lyman causing delays

From staff reports

LYMAN — A single-car crash on Alfred Road with a possible fatality has been reported.

Authorities would not confirm the accident at this time and no further information was released.

[url=http://www.pressherald.com/news/Accident-on-Route-111-in-Lyman.html]Sour...

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Biddeford crash ....An


Biddeford crash ....An accident Friday afternoon in Biddeford ended with one car on top of another. (Staff photo by Mark Hews)

Accident causes car pile up in Biddeford

Posted: Friday, December 23, 2011 4:25 pm

BIDDEFORD - An accident Friday afternoon in Biddeford ended with one car on top of another. Biddeford police said there were no injuries in the accident, which occurred around 4 p.m. on the spur between Interstate 95 and Route 111.

[url=http://www.keepmecurrent.com/news_now/photo-accident-causes-car-pile-up-...

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"Route 111, one of the

"Route 111, one of the state's most deadly roadways"

Another one?

Route 2 Skowhegan to Palmyra
About a 15 mile stretch
About 25 fatalities in 20-25 years
About 10 in 10 years
About several roadside memories
Last fatality: 14 days ago

Steady traffic rural roadway

Calvin
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on the spur between

on the spur between Interstate 95 and Route 111.

This doesn't exactly qualify as a problem of rt 111.

jcmcards
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There was another accident

There was another accident (unreported, 3 vehicles) on the Biddeford end going up the hill and out of town. One vehicle was under the rear end of a 1/2 ton pickup.

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