Crushing the Poor by suspension

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Toolsmith
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Crushing the Poor by suspension

I rarely agree with anything in The Guardian, but...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/10/america-punish-poo...

Notice that this is not a conservative issue - California is #1 in suspensions of this type.

It's also not racist. Anyone poor can get snared. More minorities, but only because they're more likely to be poor. This will make certain the poor stay poor...

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It's not a conservative issue

It's not a conservative issue. Conservatives are more likely to be libertarian on these types of issues.

The Democrats have always preyed on the poor. Democrats tend to try to micromanage society with a multitude of laws and regulations, many of which we did fine without.

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In Maine if you are a

In Maine if you are a habitual offender ,three oui’s within a ten year period you become a felon......and get to drag that around for the rest of your life.Considering the fact that alcoholism is classified as a disease isn’t that a form of discrimination?

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In Maine most courts will

In Maine most courts will allow a delay in paying a fine and or reduce if asked. If unable to pay that can be communicated to court and dealt with.

Tom C
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Mandatory car inspections are

Mandatory car inspections are another ploy by good-government nitwits to prey on the poor.

Toolsmith
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Don't get me started on the

Don't get me started on the useless auto inspections... Big pet peeve of mine!

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johnw decries the inhumanity

johnw decries the inhumanity of suspending licenses for drunk driving. He would most likely wet his pants if he actually read the article.

johnw
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Jasper I did read the article

Jasper I did read the article,and just wanted to add a little more insult to injury......but instead of attempting to insult me ( which you always ,always fail miserably at) how about an honest opinion on the felony rap for those who are saddled with it even after they have gotten help....?

PressMan247
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The article decries declining

The article decries declining tax revenue which is a FAKE NEWS. Governments are at record levels for taxes... It's a spending problem. They spend more than they have. In a rural state like Maine, you have to have transportation.

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Just to play Devil's Advocate

Just to play Devil's Advocate here (the devil being the DMV): so, if the DMV is not allowed to suspend licenses, how exactly should the be allowed to enforce moving violations? Should they be allowed to garnish wages?

Side note: My mother actually worked at the California DMV for several decades, doing research on drunk driving punishments (which is tangentially related). It turns out that suspending licenses is actually a better punishment than jail time for a DUI (measured in the rate of recidivism, that is, how often does a DUI offender become a repeat offender).

When people go to jail, they do their time, and usually continue DUIing when they get out. When they get their license suspended, they actually keep driving (as noted in the article), but they're a lot more careful, because getting pulled over has a significantly higher impact. What happens is that they actually become better/safer drivers as a result (at least, that's what her analyses found).

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Ignoring the DUIs, for which

Ignoring the DUIs, for which suspension is appropriate...

Every other government department uses liens and garnishment. Why is this one different?

If you damage an individual's ability to work (by getting to work), how does that help you collect the fine?

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That's an excellent point

That's an excellent point:
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-license-suspensions-201504...

I didn't see anything with a cursory google search, I wonder if they don't have that power... will investigate further.

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